Brandon Shollenberger's review of 'The Hockey Stick and Climate Wars' by Michael Mann

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[h/t to Adam] At Lucia's blog, on Feb 15th, Branden Shollenberger commented:

"I just received my copy of Michael Mann’s book. The first sentence of it is (emphasis mine):

On the morning of November 17, 2009, I awoke to learn that my e-mail correspondence with fellow scientists had been hacked from a climate research center at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom and selectively posted on the Internet for all to see.

Two pages later, there are these two sentences:

Instrumental records from around the globe indicate that Earth has warmed by almost 1 degree Celsius (about 1.5°F) over the past century. That may seem a small amount, but it is already noticeable in glacier retreat, rising sea level, more frequent heat waves, and more intense hurricanes, among many other phenomena.

That’s as far as I’ve gotten, but it shows a disturbing trend. Ideas which are possible, but by no means known to be true, are stated as fact. If this is remotely representative of the book’s accuracy, there is no way the people giving it glowing reviews read it with an open mind."

Over the next few days Brandon finds more errors as he reads the book. It is quite fun to follow the unfolding story but you can download the whole review as a pdf here.

And there's more! This weekend Brandon hopes to share a second document covering other issues and which we will add as an update to this post.

Frank O'Dwyer has his own opinions on Brandon's review which you can read here - he doesn't like it.

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Robert
# Robert 03-07-2012 17:03
One has to wonder how much science these guys actually do when they are so busy writing books or making movies.

The "classical" scientist: The search for truth.

The "modern" scientist: The search for fame.

Nothing more need be said about them.
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anne
# anne 03-08-2012 01:48
If Mann is so confident why has he done his best to stop the release of other documents, papers and e mails? He is an arrogant fool and that will be his eventual undoing!
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 04:21
Anne, why don't you let me see your letters, emails and notes as well as those of your 39 closest friends for a 5 year period. Plus I would like to see all your bank records and receipts. I know that the police and the tax department have cleared you of any misdeeds, but I think you may have exaggerated on your job application for a job at the council library in 1998.
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 05:01
Hey Cool Whip! When did anne accept public funding for her work?

When did anne tell us we had to give up energy security for her religion?

Why won't an honest man trying to save the planet show us his work?

Who asked Mann for his private email and banking records?

Where is that peer reviewed paper that refutes natural variability as the cause of recent or any global climate changes?

Have you always been so gullible? :lol:
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 05:09
Yes, 868 University Presidents (and every single science academy on the planet) and I are gullible. Must be all that education that made us that way. I envy your ignorance.
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 06:36
So as oceans cool, arctic ice rebounds, glaciers are stable, and Co2 keeps rising, AGW is looking more likely? :lol:

Cool Whip still has zero science to back his religion, still cannot produce even one peer reviewed paoper that refutes NV, even with...

Quote:
...868 University Presidents (and every single science academy on the planet)...
They absolutely must be the most innept collection of scientists the world has wever seen, and Cool Whip chooses them for mentors! :lol:
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 06:38
Please excuse the typos, I can barely see the screen I'm laughing so hard!!!

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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 07:43
Now go interview every single scientist at those academies and provide evidence that they all agree with said academies position.

That is such a bullshit claim typical of your appeals to authority. Unfortunately for you Drewski people here can, unlike you, think for themselves.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 11:10
"868 University Presidents" climate scientists all. Wait, weren't we only supposed to listen to REAL climate scientists? I wonder if Cool Whip even listens to his own words?

Like email theft, integrity changes with the weather/climate
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 04:41
Wow! I am actually impressed with something re-posted by Climate Disbadshit. The main article above includes a link to a take down of Shollenberger's hatchet job of the Climate Wars book. Shollenberger's review must have been a doozey if the author felt he had provide a link to discredit his own source.

Climate Disbadshit often scrapes the bottom of the barrel for their content and this time it appears that scraped up the stuff under the barrel.
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 04:57
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Some of the #s on p 18 of #HSCW not quite right. EU target is 2C tot rel. to pre-indust (approx 450ppm). To be fixed next printing.
Yep! What a takedown! Already working on a reprint to fix errors.

Great genius! :lol:

Found that paper yet Cool Whip! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 04:55
My God, Branden Shollenberger's reviewof Micheal mann's book must have been so bad that it has already been deleted from the internet!!!

But Climate Disbadshit still proudly presents it as a headline.

Classic.
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Joker
# Joker 03-08-2012 05:29
Drewski

Anne has got more intelligence, grace, honour and compassion in her little finger than you have got in your poor excuse for a body.

Instead of insulting and ridiculing her, try and learn a bit from her.

Shame on you
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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 07:38
Nicelu stated Gator, the trouble is Drewski doesn't know how to learn.

Substitute a german accent, and replace the word "denier" with the word "juden" and you'll understand Drewski and his kind. They need something or someone to hate, without that they are nothing.

Drewski claims "all that education" yet his actions indicate otherwise.
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 08:14
Well you guys are all over the place today. Instead of acknowledging the truth of my assertion -- namely that Climate Disbadshit has submitted yet another piece of yellow journalism (a piece that quickly turned brown), you decide accuse me -- wrongly -- of insulting Anne.

Exactly how did I do that Mr Juvenile Joke Man?

sCeptic Rule #6: If you have nothing of substance to say, accuse the logical person of using insults.
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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 09:38
Hmm... Yellow journalism eh? That would be like all the articles regarding the Heartland Institute based on Gleick's fraud?

You know all about "yellow journalism' don't you Drewski? It's the forte of you and your kind.

Seeing as you never have anything of substance to say your little rule quote is quite humorous.

Go project elsewhere Drewski, all you ever do is come here accusing us of what you are guilty of.
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 10:03
Ooooh! I want to play the color wheel game too! Let's talk about red herrings and grey literature. Red handed green frauds caught stealing ID's, private property and public trust. Or how about the enormous piles of green money the greenies have that they use to push red propaganda into the realm of 'science'. (See 'appeals to authority' mindlessly regurgitated above)

I guess it is a waste of my time to ask Cool Whip to provide refutation of natural variability.

Sucker! :lol:
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 12:00
"appeals to authority" is a phrase sCeptics like to toss around a lot as if it has a negative connotation.

I willingly and gladly (and, yes, logically) appeal to authority when I am a patient at a hospital and that authority is a doctor or when I am a passenger on a plane and that authority is the pilot or if I am a student and that authority is a teacher.

In fact, I appeal to those whose knowledge is greater than mine in every field of endeavor. You would have to be an idiot or, it appears, a sCeptic not to.

So, yes, 868 university presidents and EVERY science academy in the world and even the American Petroleum Institute acknowledge that heat trapping gasses trap heat, so I appeal to their authority. Call me a conformist.
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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 12:15
You don't do anything logically, and the doctor meme was worn out and trashed thoroughly by the skeptic scientists who chewed up and spit out the weak "rebuttal" made by climate "scientists" in the NYT.

You really are yesterday's news. Even your "logic" is antiquated.
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 12:33
According to AR4 (your bible), your 'authorities' have a 'low' to 'very low' understanding on 80% of the known forcings on our climate. Your surgeon does not know basic anatomy, so go for it Cool Whip! :lol:
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 12:49
[quote name="Drewski"]"You would have to be an idiot or, it appears, a sCeptic not to."

For once you're right Cool Whip. Glad you've FINALLY caught on.... you're EITHER an idiot or a skeptic... one or the other!!! :D

Oh, and if your doctor is predicting your health 50 years into the future based on a computer program... get a second opinion.

PS we don't look at you as a conformist... we look at you as a dupe. So stop flattering yourself!!! :D
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 11:24
Incapable of thinking for yourself, here is the link Cool Whip. www.bishop-hill.net/storage/Manns_Book_Review.pdf

Not to worry Coolio, I've seen climostrologists 'overlook' the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Period so don't feel bad about your incompetence.

PS...thanks for coming to visit and allowing us to gloat at your expense!
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Drewski
# Drewski 03-08-2012 11:45
You may want to try that link yourself RJ. Don't you guys ever research ANYTHING?!?

As I said, the hatchet job on Mann was so botched that the author above had to provide a disclaimer. And the "masterpiece", itself has gone poof -- disappeared into the night like so many sCeptic brain cells.
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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 12:18
Still projecting are you Drewski? Must be tough when all you can provide us with is a fraud who lies to obtain his "smoking gun" to discredit us skeptics, and a complicit media that continue to lie for him.

You can't claim to be motivated by ethics or morality as Gleick has shown the world what you and your kind are really about.

Must suck to be you.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 12:26
put http:// in front Cool Whip.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 12:29
Links work for me. But I'm not incompetent tho'.
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Robert
# Robert 03-08-2012 12:30
That would be expecting him to think for himself Jeff. When as you can clearly see you have to think for him.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 03-08-2012 12:51
Charity Robert, only charity!
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Gator
# Gator 03-08-2012 12:37
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Ideas which are possible, but by no means known to be true, are stated as fact. If this is remotely representative of the book’s accuracy, there is no way the people giving it glowing reviews read it with an open mind.
Did Cool Whip have a hand in this project? :lol:

Found that paper yet CW? ;-)
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anne
# anne 03-08-2012 14:25
Thankyou so much gentlemen for defending my honour and integrity. Sorry to disappoint you Drewski but I have worked in nursing all of my life, both in the third world and the UK, recently I have been working with Somalian women in the UK who have suffered 'female genital mutilation' usually at the age of 11 or 12 years and again after having children. So forgive me if I have no patience or time for people like you who make up and believe scary scenarios, I deal with the real scary world.
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