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Tez
# Tez 08-19-2012 01:23
:-x GREEN DREAM :-x

Imagine a GREEN world
It's easy if you try
No need for food to feed us
No mining too
Imagine no people left to spoil the world

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
No changing ice fields
No extreme weather too
Imagine no people left to spoil the world

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no human reproduction
No carbon footprint children
No power generation too
A climate that never changes
Imagine no people left to spoil the world

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
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Tez
# Tez 08-19-2012 01:30
I was thinking of sending this to the Green Party for inclusion in their manifesto.

I thought I would put it through the peer review system here, any suggestions for improvment would be welcome.
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anne
# anne 08-19-2012 02:15
Brilliant Tez, No Al Gore and no Obama too might be a good line! Hey it might be the best line of all ;-)
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anne
# anne 08-19-2012 02:25
notrickszone.com/2012/08/18/financial-times-deutschalnd-talks-openly-about-germanys-dirty-wind-energy-secret/ As everyone knows by now, I hate wind turbines and the environmental/bird destruction they cause. We have touched on Germany a few times but this to me says it all.
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anne
# anne 08-19-2012 02:38
stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/national-ice-center-shows-40-more-ice-than-2007/ So, is the sky falling??? Does the Emperor have any clothes???
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anne
# anne 08-19-2012 03:10
stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/lying-about-drought/ So, the Mississippi is drying up for the first time?????????
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anne
# anne 08-19-2012 03:23
climatescience.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/donna-laframboise-lecture-on-ipcc.html This is my last link for today you will be glad to know, but I saved the best till last.
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Paul Homewood
# Paul Homewood 08-19-2012 06:04
We keep hearing that more and more record temperatures are being set in the US.

This explodes that myth. The majority were set before 1940.

notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/most-ohio-record-temperatures-set-before-1940/
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amirlach
# amirlach 08-22-2012 20:33
I always find it strangely funny how guys like this use "Climate Change" as an excuse to promote Ideology.

Quote:
Amidst the talk of melting ice, rising seas and extreme weather, there are a few lesser known effects of climate change.
makewealthhistory.org/2012/08/21/climate-change-and-west-nile-virus/

See how he takes what is complete and utter nonsense and assocciates it with a disproven theory to support his agenda?

Melting Ice? That's not melting. Rising Seas that aint. Extreme Weather that is less extreme than ever.

When shown evidence that refutes his claims (like i did with his rising natural gas prices due to depletion meme) he simply deletes posts and bans users.

Most ironic seeing as this is in his Commenting Guide.

Quote:
5. Back up your comments. I’m a trained journalist and I’m committed to communicating the truth. I want this site to have integrity, and I invite you to hold me accountable to that. If you think I’ve made an unsubstantiated remark, ask. In return, I will ask you to provide evidence for your own assertions.
When i provided several lines of evidence refuting the false assumption he was leveraging to support his agenda he just deleted them and banned me.

What i want to discuss is the mindset that takes something as unproven and bendable as "Climate Change" and uses it to try and promote a political agenda...
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amirlach
# amirlach 08-22-2012 20:43
If you look at other alarmist memes like the "Global Cooling" of the 70's or the "Population Bomb" or even the more recent IPCC "Global Warming" Wealth Redistrabution scheme you always see the leap in logic claiming some imagined, looming man made catastrophy as reason to de-industrialize the west.

Or worse in the case of the anti human population bombers, to somehow reduce the worlds population drastically. (Notice they never say how this could be achived?)
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Tez
# Tez 08-22-2012 23:35
Its an old trick. Scare the population with whatever, then when they are looking the other way introduce some sweeping regulations through the back door.

It is obvious with Military Juntas, but democracies have to do it more stealthily for the same result.

Thatcher and Bush used war as a smoke screen, and now its the global warming scam.
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amirlach
# amirlach 08-23-2012 22:04
I also thought this way, the back door thing. I see it as a bait and switch, akin to a magician's miss direction.

He come out with implied threats, rising sea levels, melting ice and whatnot as his scare then tries to switch in his solutions which involve zero growth and massive central planning schemes.

He goes into fits when you point out with factual evidence that his Bait is complete and utter nonsence.

This destroys the need to consider his so called "Solutions". Then the banning and deleting starts.

When your ideas cannot be sold on their own merits (socialisim as an example), you need some way to coerce people to follow along. Emotions like fear being one of the most primal is also the most effective.

You can see this in the run up to the US Election. Granny going over the cliff was one of the most blatant examples.
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amirlach
# amirlach 08-25-2012 13:33
Here's a Model Projection we can all watch and verify ourselves. hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/23/model-that-claims-it-correctly-predicted-last-8-presidents-picks-romney-in-2012/

This link is totally off topic but is still an amazing feat of scientific progress. A camera that can track the movement of light photons and actually observe time distortions due to the camera recording at near the speed of light. hotair.com/archives/2012/08/24/video-football-fan-totally-stoked-for-super-duper-slo-mo/
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