Free-for-all Topics and Discussion: Aug 29, 2012

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How is it in Tanzania. Don't they have a lot of mineral resources and of course Kilimanjaro?
all the best,
Mark
"Now, before any GM diehards accuse me of dumping on the General again, please believe me: I take no glee in reporting the temporary (and perhaps even permanent) demise of the next big thing that wasn’t."
www.thepassinglane.ca/2012/08/gm-to-suspend-volt-production-shocking-not-really.html
hi amirlach, I still prefer this model than the volt.
You should like this article about the massive advances in range the electric car has made in 100 years(NOT!). www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html
I don't think he is stupid enough to go through with it. There is so much peer reviewed literature out there that has discredited the infamous made-up hockey stick graph. Even the IPCC has distanced itself from his fabricated 'graph'.
Of course the religious flock worship falsehoods!
Discredited?!? By who, the Cabal Of No Qualifications? What about the 11 hockey sticks that have been created by independent teams of researches since Mann's original? No one has disproved them.
You seem to be stuck in a never ending echo chamber.
Stick that in your echo chamber.
And the big brown Asian cloud of particulates has been proven to restrict sunlight reaching the surface.
And, of course, you are aware that Arctic temps have been higher than than normal -- just happens to be in the same spot where CO2 concentrations are at their highest. Coincidence?
Sorry Comrade drewski but those "newer observations and newer studies" have further refuted the Hockey Stick.
"The distinctive frauds of the Mann hockey stick graph were its portrayal of a largely unchanging climate (a slight and near-linear decline from the MWP to the LIA) until the 20th C, and its commingling of different data sets over different periods. The above graph still commits the latter epistemological sin, but clearly refutes the Mann hockey stick on the former. Of the seven temperature records graphed, only three extend back to the MWP, and of those three, two show that the peak of the MWP was warmer than the 1990s. The lone dissenting record, which more closely recapitulates the Mann hockey stick is --
The claim that this graph "independently reproduces" the Mann hockey stick is a flat-out fabrication. Another fraudulent Mann temperature reconstruction is not an independent confirmation, and the truly independent parts of the graph plainly show that late 20th C was no warmer than the peak of the MWP."
All this refutation without even going into the "Hide the Decline" fraud. The dropping of the tree ring data when it became inconvienient.
Here is a graphic showing the deleted data in red.
Briffa, Jones and Mann reconstructions together with HadCRU temperature.
How in the world does that graph show the hockey stick has been discredited? BTW, you may want to alert the National Academy of Sciences about your "proof" -- they don't seem to have gotten the memo.
There are lots of scare stories emerging at the moment here in Blighty, apparently almost all the ice in the Arctic has gone, we have reached a tipping point where the co2 released from the melting ice is accelerating Global warming, there are daily stories about catastrophic Climate Change etc etc,
Where are these stories? The BBC of course,
Every day new evidence is shown on the 'News' along with the same old familiar library footage of the same ice floes breaking up that we have seen so many times, now, I wonder why it's just the BEEB that is spearheading this propaganda push?
Any ideas?
Also when you type in the request to google it comes up with the Arctic.
You have to dig deep for these type of facts.
I know that they have gained about 1/3 the volume of ice that the Arctic has lost in the past decade and that they have very different characteristics to the other pole. Such as: they have a very large ozone hole above them and they are a continent surrounded by ocean rather than a an ocean surrounded by continents as is the Arctic.
I have also learned that land masses heat more quickly than the oceans and that is why the Arctic was always predicted to be the canary in the coal mine for global warming. I have also learned that all the world's oceans and sea have warmed approximately 0.1 degree in the past 10 years (What would cause such UNIFORM warming? hmmmm)
But, don't worry, warming is coming to us all, including Antarctica
Once again Model Predictions failed despite the data fiddling.
wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/20/ocean-heat-content-adjustments-follow-up-and-more-missing-heat/
drewski your claims of warming oceans have no basis in reality.
Funny how data that doesn't support the theory gets either "Adjusted" or deleted.
www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2012/2012GL051106.shtml
Also sea rise was measured as .5mm per year which is 50mm per century ie bugger all
The uniform warming is caused mainly by solar radiation.
BTW I am not worried if the world warms, we are currently in a cold period and Gaia's historical preference is for much warmer climes.