EU Signals It Will Not Adopt New Unilateral CO2 Target: The Never-Ending Climate Deadlock?

Written by Dr. Benny Peiser, GWPF.

Connie Hedegaard, Danish politician, minister ...

Connie Hedegaard. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The European Union appears unlikely to adopt tougher targets for carbon emissions this year after an official at the UN climate talks in Bangkok was quoted as saying further cuts were ‘wishful thinking’. If this is an official EU policy it will come as a blow to climate commissioner Connie Hedegaard, who has been a vocal supporter of adopting a more ambitious goal. --Responding to Climate Change, 2 September 2012

Fears are mounting that the latest round of international climate talks could once again end in deadlock, as diplomats gathered in Bangkok reportedly clashed on a number of different fronts. According to various reports the working groups have again seen repeated clashes between rich and poor nations, raising fears the meeting will mirror the previous round of talks in Bonn earlier this year, where diplomats and campaigners were left frustrated by a serious lack of progress that threatens to undermine the crucial Doha summit at the end of the year. --James Murray, Business Green, 3 September 2012

Almost 50 of the world's poorest nations said pledges made by rich countries to provide funds to help them adapt to a warmer planet risk being overlooked as U.N. negotiations over a global climate pact to start in 2020 got underway in Bangkok on Thursday. "All sides need a clearer understanding on how to get to $100 billion a year by 2020 with no gaps," said Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the U.N.'s climate department and the public face of the talks. The call comes as traditional rich nations struggle to rein in their national debt and budget deficits, while support for proposals to tap the private sector for cash through regulating or taxing emissions from shipping and aviation have struggled to receive backing. --Reuters, 30 August 2012

It is not a mystery as to what is missing in the UN climate change talks — it’s as obvious as an elephant in the room. They need deep emission cuts in line with the science and they need a commitment to getting finance and technology to communities on the frontline. These were promised by industrialised countries in existing legal agreements, but the tricks they will use to get out of their commitments seem endless. --Wisdom Mdzungari, News Day, 3 September 2012

Rezaul Karim Chowdhury from EquityBD Bangladesh said, "No deep cut now means mass carbon genocide to least developed countries, especially possible extinction of small island countries like Bangladesh, the Maldives, the Philippines etc." "The United States, the EU and other Annex I countries have already accepted their responsibility to the climate crisis. The next logical and imperative thing to do is to fulfill their existing legally binding commitments and undertaking drastic emission cuts without offsets. No more skirting the issue. No more excuses. They need to act now," said Lopez. --Financial Express, 3 September 2012

Germany’s middle-class is bearing the brunt of the green energy transition for both the industry and the poor. Soon Germany may not have the economic engine to carry the rest of Europe through its financial crisis. Angela Merkel will have to find another coalition or her government may fall. --James Conca, Forbes, 31 August 2012

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Mark
# Mark 09-04-2012 03:28
I live in Denmark we already get about 20% of electricity from wind. We have the most expensive electricity in the world - most of our manufacturing industry has gone. The landscape is hideous windmills everywhere.

There is a tax on sugar and fedt. (We go to Germany every month to buy CD's,Meat, Cokes and sweets -third of the price over there). They cannot get anymore tax out of the working man. A socialistic country where we are told everyone is the same. Individualism is frowned upon.

The Danes were a great people once now they just do what they are told - that is the future of Europe (EUSSR). Apathy and servitude. Scam taxes through a wealth distribution scheme backed by the religious sect of human made climate change fantasy is a main part of the plan.
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Drewski
# Drewski 09-04-2012 09:23
So you go to the country with the highest percentage of renewable energy in the world for cheap goods because you have wind power in Denmark?
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Owei
# Owei 09-04-2012 10:47
If you think Germany is the country with the highest percentage of renewable energy in the world, you are completly wrong. Those are the countries with a lot of hydropower like Norway.
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Mark
# Mark 09-04-2012 11:37
Drewski - It would help if you replied to what I actually wrote. You handle on economics is laughable.
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Robert
# Robert 09-04-2012 12:49
Mark, by the same sort of reasoning that drewski uses to imply that because they have so much renewable energy that is why prices are so low in Germany we can make the statement that because drewski has so much time to thread bomb this site he can't keep a job and is once again unemployed.

Likewise we don't have to provide any supporting evidence of the assertion as simply making the claim is enough to make it true.

That is if we were to use his reasoning skills.

As you stated it would make a great deal of difference if he actually comprehended what you were saying and was able to address that rather than seeing it as an opportunity to try and show us how clever he thinks he is.
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Mark
# Mark 09-04-2012 15:20
Hi Robert,
Drewski totally misses my point - that is Denmark is so expensive due to the highest electricity prices in the world, that I, and my family have to regularly travel to Germany to buy food and sweets etc.

I don't think he has good comprehension skills! Weird!
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Robert
# Robert 09-04-2012 16:16
I understood that the cost of your electricity was very high. It also gave the impression that with 20% of your electrical power coming from wind that is a part of why your electrical costs are so high. You would have better access to the numbers on that than I so I will leave it to you to let me know if that is an accurate summary.

drewski doesn't get the economics of it, to him it is simply wind (or some sort of "renewable") == good, everything else == bad.

That and he's been on his soap box about how wonderful Germany is with how much of their power is from "renewable" sources, etc. for some time now.

The rest of us read the news and talk to people who live there and get a much different picture than the one he clings to.

Also good to hear Owei's thoughts as hydro is a big provider in many countries and though it is not always feasible due to geography it does qualify as a renewable.
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Robert
# Robert 09-04-2012 16:34
As to the economics, if the electricity cost is high then the cost of everything else will increase. That is pretty simple, if it costs the store more to keep food fresh, power the lighting, run the heaters or air conditioners, etc. then those costs will be added to the sale price of their goods and passed on to the consumer. If fuel costs are also high then the transport cost will increase which will likewise be paid for in the end by the consumer.

That costs aren't as high in Germany, and I would speculate that should be qualified by saying "yet", is not an indication that whatever percent of "renewable" energy they currently employ has anything to do with it. One would have to look at the taxes being paid by both industry and the citizens as well as other economic factors to understand how their market prices are arrived at and how their power costs effect that.

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Germany is just slightly cheaper in their electric than Denmark, Denmark being the most expensive with Germany in 2nd place. So "all that" "renewable" power doesn't appear to be saving the German's much money either.
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amirlach
# amirlach 09-04-2012 19:44
It's exactly this kind of upside down and backwards leftist logic which is destroying eastern Canada's manufacturing industry. Alberta and Sask. both suffer a shortage of skilled workers due to our booming un-alternative energy sector.

Might be why so many are leaving the eastern socialist dystopia for "greener" western pastures. Despite the failed attempts of the far left to lay the blame for their failed renewable policy's on Alberta's success. The people just keep coming. Truely Voting with their feet and wallets.
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din365
# din365 09-05-2012 18:49
Don't tell them about newfoundland turning their economy around with the oil and gas sector, or they might explode.
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amirlach
# amirlach 09-05-2012 22:24
Just their heads! :D Yes Newfoundland has learned a lesson from Alberta. All those who came here looking for work returned home with an eye to true prosperity.
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Mark
# Mark 09-05-2012 06:11
yes,Robert I totally agree with what you have written. It isn't just the renewal energy that raises the costs of everything but also the Governments taxation policy - which is enormous.

The Danish government regulates us with punitive taxes on sugar and fat and anything else they feel isn't good for us like old style light bulbs.

I dislike being only a tool to pay taxes. I prefer to choose which light bulb and in today's world electricity should be very cheap - just my opinion of course :-)
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Gator
# Gator 09-05-2012 16:19
"Rezaul Karim Chowdhury from EquityBD Bangladesh said, "No deep cut now means mass carbon genocide to least developed countries, especially possible extinction of small island countries like Bangladesh, the Maldives, the Philippines etc."

Wow! Somebody sure is a fast learner when it comes to extorting money from the west. He's definitely been Hansenized, with the Holy Hockey Stick. :-x
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