China gives lie to Flannery's climate change fantasies

Written by Terry McCrann, Herald Sun.

Tim Flannery

Tim Flannery (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

WHICH is the bigger disgrace? A government body which just feeds out complete crap to mislead and deceive the public?

Or the government that set it up with that precise intention?

The Climate Commission was supposedly set up to provide in its own self-description, an "independent and reliable source of information" about climate change, international efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and the economics of a carbon price.

Independent? Reliable? Only if you are as utterly delusional as its pompously but laughingly revealingly titled "chief climate commissioner," the non-climate scientist Tim Flannery, clearly is.

And as for calling the sludge and propaganda it churns out 'information," the closest it gets are deceptive and dishonest half-truths.

Like, in its latest effort, "China leads the world in renewable energy." Left unstated is how utterly insignificant is that renewable energy in comparison to its massive and continuing increase in coal-fired power generation.

Everything the Climate Commission has done, everything it continues to do, makes an utter mockery of those claimed objectives.

It is a direct fraud on the Australian public, which the public has to pay for to the tune of some tens of millions.

The latest effort from its so-called 'chief climate commissioner' really takes the cake with his absurd claim that Australia could be powered "almost entirely by renewable energy."

Oh yeah. Renewable energy now provides about 10 per cent of our electricity. Sounds like we've got a running start? We've 'only' got to expand it tenfold?

Except what people like Flannery never tell you in all the headline flummery, is that the overwhelming majority of that comes from hydro power. And nobody's building dams any more.

Yes, the body of his report does note that some 65 per cent of that 10 per cent comes from hydro. It's arguably closer to 80 per cent in non-drought years.

That means barely 2 per cent of our total electricity comes from what the average person would think as 'renewable'. Or certainly the sort of renewable that Flannery flummery has flowering all across the countryside. Wind and solar.

Indeed his report says that only - although, he didn't use that word - around 2.6 per cent of our electricity today comes from wind and solar.

That means even using his optimistic numbers for current wind and solar generation, we would have to increase our installations of wind and solar by at least forty times what they are today to get 100 per cent of our electricity from these two "plentiful" sources.

Let that sink in. Imagine all the windmills already out there now, lazily, uselessly, occasionally, turning around, and multiple them by 40.

At least 40, arguably more like 80 or indeed 160.

Because they are so fickle and unreliable - even the most optimistic claims are that they produce barely 30 per cent of their 'rated capacity.' So you'd have to put in at least twice as many.

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Brian Richard Allen
# Brian Richard Allen 11-26-2012 09:51
.... the most optimistic claims are that they produce barely 30 per cent of their rated capacity ....

In some long-haired, maggot-infested, pot-smoking sixties' hippy's delusional fantasies, perhaps.

Or in, that is, what does the likes of RecidivistjuLiar and Flim-Flannery and every other of the Fifteen Trillion Dollar Mann-MadeGW Industrial-Complex's gangsters for "thought" processes!

Try 18%. And try remembering, also, that every one of those rotten ratbag rent-seekers' boondoggles requires ONE HUNDRED PER CENT BACKUP from "conventional" sources.

IE, from coal or from gas.
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anne
# anne 11-26-2012 13:00
Try 18%. And try remembering, also, that every one of those rotten ratbag rent-seekers' boondoggles requires ONE HUNDRED PER CENT BACKUP from "conventional" sources.

IE, from coal or from gas.

From above comment, and when wind blows too hard turned off, no wind no power but still get paid if you own the land they invade.
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wayne
# wayne 11-27-2012 01:29
i can now add you to my long list of Australian jounalists who know NOTHING about the clean energy, carbon or environmental sectors, yet have the audacity to attack experts that DO.
in fact Australia has the resources to become ZERO emmisons beyondzeroemissions.org/zero-carbon-australia-2020. And Flannery will point oput the Glass half full options like China and its MASSIVE renewable sector to show us how pathetic we are in not only avoidiung the real probelm - Climate Cahnge- but FEEDING the worlds addiction to fossil fuels for short term gain
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anne
# anne 11-27-2012 02:56
Wayne, you must be either employed in this industry or absolutely closed to reality. I am not being rude at all and would urge you to look at alternative evidence.
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Heretic
# Heretic 11-27-2012 10:24
And has to shout, while he can't
punctuate or spell. Ah, but the poor dear
feels so strongly.
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Brian Richard Allen
# Brian Richard Allen 11-27-2012 11:46
.... must be either employed in this industry or absolutely closed to reality ....

Or both.

Like Flim-Flam Flannery and as is every other Joe Goebbels' Graduate fascist fraudster of the Peer-Reviewed Penn-State Jerry-Sandusky-of-Climate Scientists Michael-Mann-MadeGW Industrial Complex.

And is that gang's every power grabbing Fascissocialist facilitator.

RecidivistjuLiar.
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Garry
# Garry 11-27-2012 19:54
Wayne, I have more than 40 years experience with renewable energy, have a PhD in the field and work in an industry which has, over that time, been Australia's largest generator of non-hydro 24x7 renewable energy. I have also travelled the length and breadth of China over several years and seen their massive wind farms and the way they use solar. Wind and solar will only ever make a minor contribution to the grid since they cannot provide energy reliably when it is required. Even large storage hydro falls short at times of extended drought. While I saw China's two 10000+ turbine wind farms and passed several more new turbines being trucked in each day, these wind farms were mostly doing what they often do ... nothing - no wind! and in total they only add up to a couple of decent coal fired power stations, of which I saw dozens under construction. China's approach to solar is interesting - pretty much confined to self-powering street lights and traffic lights and remote off-grid applications (with diesel for everything but the lights). Solar hot water everywhere, but in much of China, if the sun doesn't shine, then either cold showers or no shower (that's where there is running water). In the countryside, the major renewable fuel was dung for the kitchen stove.
Flannery has no idea what he is talking about.
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