Whether It Is Warming or Climate Change, It Cannot be the CO2

Written by Dr. Tim Ball.

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Recently a Japanese Research Institute published a satellite map of sources of CO2 emissions. It was virtually ignored by the mainstream media, but that has become an inverse measure of its significance to the climate debate. It showed a pattern that most would not expect because of the misleading information presented by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) amplified by most media. Producers of the research illustrate the problem.

“The head of the research institute, Yasuhiro Sasano, says he hopes the map will help display how much each region needs to reduce its CO2 emissions in the future.”

This is only a politically correct comment because the map illustrates the exact opposite, CO2 emission reduction is not required where the IPCC recommend. John O’Sullivan correctly drew attention to this dilemma, however, the results are logical if known science is applied.

NHK World

Figure 1: Red is for high CO2 emission: Green (absorbers) no emissions: White is low or neutral emissions.

The information in the article is not surprising if you know anything about CO2 and don’t buy the ‘official’ nonsense. The oceans are the main control of atmospheric CO2 as one of the atmospheric gases in constant flux between the water and the atmosphere. The ocean’s ability to absorb CO2 is a function of its temperature – cold water absorbs more CO2 than warm water. The boundary between the warm polar water and warm tropical water is very clearly defined in most parts of the world and the map generally reflects this pattern. The map is only surprising if you believe that humans are the primary source of CO2.

I was criticized for participating in the book “Slaying the Sky Dragon” but did so because they were tackling a question that few, including most of the skeptics, ignore; the actual role of CO2 as a greenhouse gas. As a climatologist I know all the variables must fit together and interact with each other. The evidence for CO2 as a greenhouse gas simply doesn’t fit. The Slayers had serious problems with the physics and it was essential to put that information into the debate. The map makes it time to revisit why, besides the physics, CO2 doesn’t fit.

There are several misconceptions about CO2, most created because proponents tried to prove the hypothesis rather than the normal scientific practice of disproof. It helped them if the misinformation created unfounded fears. An early IPCC claim said atmospheric residency time of CO2 was at least 100 years. Done, ostensibly, for the political point that even if we stopped production immediately the damage was done. We now know the actual time is at most 5 to 6 years.

The major assumption of the hypothesis says a CO2 increase causes a temperature increase. After publication in 1999 of Petit et al., Antarctic ice core records were presented as evidence. Just four years later proof that the major assumption of the hypothesis was wrong appeared. Somehow it was shuffled aside, probably because of the diversionary claim that the lag was between 80 and 800 years. It doesn’t matter, it still contradicts the basic assumption. Temperature change before CO2 change is the case in every record for any period or duration is studiously ignored by proponent and skeptic. A shorter record showing the relationship is shown in Figure 2.

Lag Time for Short Record 1958 to 2009

Figure 2 Lag Time for Short Record 1958 to 2009

It is logical to assume that if CO2 change follows temperature change in every record then CO2 cannot be a greenhouse gas.

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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 11-10-2011 12:50
It's snowing here now, because its warming of course! :o
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Gator
# Gator 11-10-2011 14:10
Hey Jeff! I was eyeing my new snow thrower last night. I have it assembled and still need to test it, as I fear it will be greatly needed this winter. After all, Cool Whip says it's getting hotter and Hansen says that means more snow. Or something. I'm sure that whatever happens it will be as they predicted, or postdicted. At some point. Maybe.
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Robert
# Robert 11-10-2011 14:50
Hey Gator, haven't had to fire it up yet, though I ran it up back in June or July after going through some preventive maintenance.

Get a tub of lithium grease and some type of a dry lubricant you can shoot into the cable sleeves. Squirt some into all the cables before the weather hits and make sure the axles are good and greased. Saves some headaches.

I don't know if you have a Fleet Farm out there (must have something similar) they have an hour meter that runs off pulses from the plug wire. I'm going to get one for mine so I can better track the hours of operation. There's a nice little decal covering a flat spot on the control panel that is just the right size for me to take a hole saw to it and mount the gauge.

We need to take care of these beasts as they are going to be needed for many more winters than this one.
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Gator
# Gator 11-10-2011 15:03
Hey Robert! Thanks for the suggestion on the hour meter. I'll have to pick one up, looks like Cabela's has them.
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Robert
# Robert 11-10-2011 14:40
Hey Jeff, we've had a few flakes drifting about but nothing to get excited about. I was cleaning up leaves earlier because I know it is coming.

Of course the tree still hasn't completely dropped all of it's leaves yet. Which some would say is because of global warming.

Of course the fact that it is a maple tree and every other type of tree in the neighborhood is bare would be glossed over.

Oh, can't forget the pine tree, it still has needles on it so it must be warming right? Not that it ever doesn't have needles on it...
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Gator
# Gator 11-10-2011 14:02
"Few, including skeptics, want to confront the problem that temperature increase precedes CO2 increase in absolute contradiction to the major assumption of the AGW hypothesis."

Ever since I saw the ice core data, and the lag, I have had no problem confronting this issue. And I agree, CO2 is no more a greenhouse gas than any other Earthly gas.

And it is good to see someone quoting the proper length of CO2 residency. This is something that needs to be repeated often, as it explains a good portion of why the models are so very wrong.
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renewable guy
# renewable guy 11-10-2011 22:46
[quote name="Gator"]"Few, including skeptics, want to confront the problem that temperature increase precedes CO2 increase in absolute contradiction to the major assumption of the AGW hypothesis."

Ever since I saw the ice core data, and the lag, I have had no problem confronting this issue. And I agree, CO2 is no more a greenhouse gas than any other Earthly gas.

quote]

Let's put you in the don't need no evidence catetgory. The author has presented nothing to really counter the evidence of co2. What is the cause then. Instead of paranoia, try evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence.

It doesn't matter what you believe, its what the evidence says.
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Gator
# Gator 11-11-2011 07:15
Hey Russ! No fair! You are not supposed to question the Goreacle. No soup for you! :D
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Russ
# Russ 11-11-2011 07:18
But But But :sad: I got crackers already. :lol:
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Gator
# Gator 11-11-2011 07:27
I think Andrew's Askol is smarting this morning. ;-)
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Russ
# Russ 11-11-2011 07:50
Probably, But I am guessing he really don't care.
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Climate realist.
# Climate realist. 11-11-2011 14:43
And with that, Russ hits renewable guy out of the stadium down a storm drain and off out to sea where he will continue to combat climate change. I'm sure the logic of it all will be lost on him.
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Gator
# Gator 11-11-2011 07:13
Hey RG! Not big on reading I see.

Please provide even one peer reviewed paper that refutes natural variability as the cause of recent or any global climate changes.
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Robert
# Robert 11-11-2011 10:19
Would you mean evidence like the evidence that Phil can't find anymore because the data was lost? That kind of evidence?

Or are you referring to the evidence that no one has really seen because it has taken court orders and FOIA requests to try to get to it and they are still fighting them in order to hide it? Is that the type of evidence you refer to?

Considering how useless and inefficient renewable energy sources are proving themselves to be, what does that make a renewable guy?
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Gator
# Gator 11-11-2011 11:53
Quoting Robert:
Considering how useless and inefficient renewable energy sources are proving themselves to be, what does that make a renewable guy?
:D

Maybe something akin to 'compostguy'.
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Speros
# Speros 11-11-2011 10:29
RG you are a f***ng idiot.

OK just for argument's sake - re-read your post, and honestly tell us whether it makes a scrap of sense.

I am f****ed if I can figure out what the hell you are on about, much less on.

You are an idiot.

You may also want to learn the basics of blog posting, including how to make quotations.
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amirlach
# amirlach 11-11-2011 10:36
Hey RG. Can you not read and comprehend? You quoted Gator saying. Quote:
Ever since I saw the ice core data, and the lag, I have had no problem confronting this issue.
Quote:
Let's put you in the don't need no evidence catetgory.
What part of the ICE CORE DATA do you think is not EVIDENCE?

Quote:
It doesn't matter what you believe, its what the evidence says.
Please provide the evidence that Co2 drives temperature, because. In ALL data sets Co2 LAGS temperature. Quote:
It is logical to assume that if CO2 change follows temperature change in every record then CO2 cannot be a greenhouse gas.
The Extraordinary Claim that Co2 drives climate has been refuted by observations.
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Charles Higley
# Charles Higley 11-10-2011 14:08
If you look at the 1938 temperature peak and the 1040s CO2 peak described by E Beck, there is about an 8 year lag in response to dropping temperatures. This makes the effect very relevant to modern concerns.
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anne
# anne 11-11-2011 04:07
In the meantime those we have ridiculed with respect to 'chemtrails' have highlighted the term 'geoengineering' now be termed 'climate remediation'. This entails spraying water and particles into the atmosphere to remedy AGW, mainly through aviation. According to many scientists this has been happening and funded through USA and UK since early 2000.
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Russ
# Russ 11-11-2011 06:14
Probably longer than that Anne.
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anne
# anne 11-11-2011 13:29
www.google.co.uk/.../ This is not just nutty professors, these people are absolutely evil, no wonder we have no bees left in UK.
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amirlach
# amirlach 11-11-2011 15:27
Ahh.. Those pesky deluded Geoengineers. Quote:
Although those observations of
natural events lend credence to the idea that humans
could introduce particles into the stratosphere and
achieve similar effects, there is less certainty that it
would be feasible to alter the reflectivity of clouds on
a scale sufficient to produce such effects.
Right so man is responsible for "Climate Change" but unable to effect large scale changes? Good thing it has not warmed for 16 years as Co2 keeps rising.
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Climate realist.
# Climate realist. 11-12-2011 22:16
And to think that we are the supposed Climate Deniers. When in fact, they are the ones emblematic of denial in the most scientific of contexts. That is in terms of the Hegelian dialectic, which, comprises of, Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis. Ie: GreenDupe has an idea,(AGW is real). THESIS. I disagree and present a scientific argument disproving it through the introduction to the proceedings of the reality principle. ANTITHESIS. GreenDupe forges his thesis in the fire of heated debate to become an understood scientific fact worthy of peer review. SYNTHESIS.

But this doesn't happen, there is no synthesis. Because as we all know Greendupe decides there is no need to confront the antithesis and resorts to ad hominem attacks and merely proclaims the validity of his position, thus destroying the scientific principle. This is, by its very definition, Climate Denial. The actual policies built around this egregious lie promulgated by these left brain repeating dupes can no longer be determined as being reached through the classical, thesis, antithesis, synthesis model. Rather it is the, Problem, Reaction, Solution paradigm that is prevalent here. Create the problem. Control the reaction. Present the solution. I don't need to expand on the obvious methods being used at each of these stages or the socioeconomic ramifications that will inevitably result.

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"

- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme quoted at the Rio conference where the first carbon tax protocols were incepted.

I'm sure you know all of this already, it's nice to have a good rant the odd time though. :)
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anne
# anne 11-13-2011 00:37
Hi Climate realist, yes it is worth remembering where these twisted theories come from, and what they hope to achieve, like the overpopulation myth, Prince Charles stating if he could be reincarnated he would come back as a deadly virus to cull the population. Of course the AGW pushers are heavily into eugenics and what better way to get rid of a great many of us by rationing energy consumption, which means food, heat and anything produced. 'The climate remediation con' will stop us growing our own food as there will be little sunlight.
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anne
# anne 11-13-2011 00:59
www.desmogblog.com/republican-brain-science-why-they-don-t-believe-science-or-many-other-inconvenient-truths Sorry Climate Realist, forgot to say, none believers, according to Chris Mooney, have something very wrong with their brain's. This from 'a little mind warped nothingness of an English graduate AGW pusher'.
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anne
# anne 11-13-2011 01:31
Climate Realist, again, if John Holdren were not Obama's top science advisor I would have a good laugh, but he is and I don't, he is the man who has proposed that the government sterilize the population through the water supply, and that 'trees should be able to sue in court' for human sins against them. The AGW gang is littered with 'crazy hippie antihumanists'. Oh forgot, it doesn't apply to them because they need to save the world.
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anne
# anne 11-13-2011 02:11
theintelhub.com/2011/10/11/why-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/ Hi again Climate Realist, I enjoyed your 'problem reaction solution' theory, and I looked it up in relation to climate change, I found this very interesting, what do you think? Also I find it interesting that OWS has morphed into the 'AGW hippie crowd'.
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