Free-for-all Topics and Discussion: Feb. 7, 2012

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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 12:57
Eric Bolling at FOX was given a Chevy Volt to test drive, and ran into a number of issues aside from the high price tag for consumers and taxpayers. One of the problems was running the charge out by using the heater. One super smart Volt owner gave his brilliant solution for getting the vehicle up to operating temperature...

I just remote start it before I get in the shower in AM, and before I leave the office in PM, and it gets to temp and defrosts if needed by the time I get to it.



Think of all the poley bears he is saving! :lol:
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 18:11
I cannot get this video to play, and gave up posting it. I'm at work and the only 2 browsers that our security people will allow are a bit outdated. But we got new carpet! :o
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Ralph
# Ralph 02-07-2012 18:42
Electric car or 370Z? Which would be more fun to drive? :-?

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nAaZ-4Uq570
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 20:57
Would a 370 get me a chick like this? Her Prius gets 4mpg! www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVdMySWfAIQ&feature=player_embedded
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amirlach
# amirlach 02-07-2012 21:36
A 370 might not but if your only shooting for 4 MPG maybe a 400" 8X8 might do it for you?
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amirlach
# amirlach 02-07-2012 21:44
That's a Precision Drilling Mud Tank. They are about 60' long and 60 tons. 4 MPG sounds pretty good right? Fun to drive? Ye-uup!!!
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 23:16
Looks like a rock crusher we made and sent up to Baffin Island! Had to be custom built to size to fit on the boat and 'train'! Took 2 hours to load it on the truck!
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Robert
# Robert 02-08-2012 00:07
If she would get her nosy, fat butt out of there she wouldn't have to "breathe the exhaust".

What a dip shit. There is no better phrase for her.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 20:59
Jeremy Clarkson destroys a Toyota Prius. With Billy Bob riding shotgun... so to speak! www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_mL--l420&feature=related
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 13:17
Missing Scientists Mystery Deepens in Frozen Antarctica

The world holds its breath, hoping for the best after six days of radio silence from Antarctica -- where a team of Russian scientists is racing the clock and the oncoming winter to dig to an alien lake far beneath the ice.

The team from Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) have been drilling for weeks in an effort to reach isolated Lake Vostok, a vast, dark body of water hidden 13,000 ft. below the surface of the icy continent. Lake Vostok hasn't been exposed to air in more than 20 million years.

Read more: www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/print#ixzz1lilfj4bX
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 14:32
The Ruski's are through! “Yesterday [on Sunday] our scientists at the Vostok polar station in the Antarctic completed drilling at depths of 3,768 meters and reached the surface of the subglacial lake,” RIA Novosti reported, quoting an unnamed Russian scientist." rt.com/news/antarctic-million-secrets-lake-583/

via dailybayonet.com/2012/02/vlad-in-vostok/
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 15:05
"Meanwhile, Itar-Tass news agency says the scientists still have a few meters to go."

He said, she said! ;-)

I just hope they find Trenberth's missing heat. :lol:
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 15:47
Hahahahahahaha!!!! :D :D :D
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amirlach
# amirlach 02-07-2012 21:19
I just hope they dont fill the bore hole in with kerosene this time.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 15:03
Maldives saved to become dictatorship? "Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed resigns amid unrest... A source close to the the country's first democratically elected president described Tuesday's developments as a "coup by the former regime"." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16922570

"It was not a coup at all, it was the wish of the people,'' Ahmed Thoufeeg, the vice president's secretary, told AP news agency. Mr Hassan's office has denied widespread reports that the military put pressure on Mr Nasheed to resign."
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 15:12
"Islam is the official religion of the Maldives and open practice of any other religion is forbidden and liable to prosecution."

Very democratic, let's have a 'Maldivian Spring'! :-x
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 15:09
Bam-Bam's election drug money fund? "US President Barack Obama's election campaign is to return donations linked to the family of a fugitive Mexican casino magnate. The Chicago-based brothers of Juan Jose Rojas Cardona, known as Pepe, raised some $200,000 (£126,000) for Mr Obama. Pepe Cardona fled the US in 1994 and is now seeking a pardon for drug and fraud charges." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16924314

"Late last year the Cardonas brothers began donating to the Obama re-election campaign and to the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the New York Times reported. They gave donations of $38,000 each to the DNC and more to the election campaign itself, putting them high on a list of so-called "bundlers" who make large campaign contributions."

Whew!!!!! At least it's not BIG Coal money!!!!! :-*
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 15:14
Looks to me like the democrats have been taking their payments in the form of product! :lol:
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 15:44
Bamba is an admitted coke user. "Obama's cocaine, pot use: Does it matter in White House bid?... Obama's drug use--pot and cocaine. He wrote about it in his memoir, "Dreams of My Father," published after he finished law school." blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/01/obamas_cocaine_pot_use_does_it.html

Stimulantus Money? :D
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 15:46
'World's last' WWI veteran Florence Green dies aged 110. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-16929653

"Born in London before moving to Norfolk, Mrs Green was 17 years old when she joined the Women's Royal Air Force (WRAF) on 13 September 1918 - two months before the armistice."

Lest we forget.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 16:08
"Energy costs for U.S. households will almost double this year from 2001, consuming a fifth of the annual income for half of American homes, according to a study by a utility group that opposes limits on coal use."

"Rising gasoline prices accounted for four-fifths of the increase cited in the study... For this year, energy costs for about half the U.S. households will be 21 percent of total income, up from 12 percent 11 years ago, according to the study." www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2012-02-07/energy-takes-twice-as-much-income-for-half-of-u-s-households.html

But not to worry... with renewable's of wind and sunshine energy will soon be free!!!!!!!!
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 16:26
Yep! Gas prices have doubled here, since Obeyme took office. I'm learning to shave with mittens on.
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 16:55
Teachers Union Staffers Set Sail on 7-Day Caribbean Cruise

Imagine your organization is facing attacks from all sides. Imagine it’s losing members and revenue. Imagine governors and mayors – of both political parties – publicly denouncing your industry as “broken” and move swiftly to stifle your power and influence, while you flail away helplessly.

What to do? What else to do but go down drinking?

That’s what members of the National Education Association’s National Staff Organization have apparently decided. The NSO is an association of sorts for teachers’ union staff – political and communications types.

Following an “Advocacy Retreat” with the theme “Building Our Unionism,” members set sail on a 7-day cruise from Miami on February 5th “with stops at Cozumel, Grand Cayman Island and Isla Roatan.”

townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/02/07/eag_exclusive_teachers_union_staffers_set_sail_on_7day_caribbean_cruise
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 17:06
‘We the People’ Loses Appeal With People Around the World
By ADAM LIPTAK

Sure, it is the nation’s founding document and sacred text. And it is the oldest written national constitution still in force anywhere in the world. But its influence is waning.

“Among the world’s democracies,” Professors Law and Versteeg concluded, “constitutional similarity to the United States has clearly gone into free fall. Over the 1960s and 1970s, democratic constitutions as a whole became more similar to the U.S. Constitution, only to reverse course in the 1980s and 1990s.”

There are lots of possible reasons. The United States Constitution is terse and old, and it guarantees relatively few rights...


Yeah, just the right to individual freedom, that's all.

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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 17:09
(cont'd)

Americans recognize rights not widely protected, including ones to a speedy and public trial, and are outliers in prohibiting government establishment of religion. But the Constitution is out of step with the rest of the world in failing to protect, at least in so many words, a right to travel, the presumption of innocence and entitlement to food, education and health care.

Yeah, the communist manifesto is soooo superior. Just ask the Soviet... oh never mind.

It has its idiosyncrasies. Only 2 percent of the world’s constitutions protect, as the Second Amendment does, a right to bear arms. (Its brothers in arms are Guatemala and Mexico.)

Apparently, tyrannical governments feel it necessary to disarm their citizens. I wonder why?

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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 17:12
(cont'd)

The Canadian Charter is both more expansive and less absolute. It guarantees equal rights for women and disabled people, allows affirmative action and requires that those arrested be informed of their rights. On the other hand, it balances those rights against “such reasonable limits” as “can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.”

Yeah, our constitution spits on women and disabled people, because they are not individuals. :o

www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/us/we-the-people-loses-appeal-with-people-around-the-world.html?_r=2&ei=5065&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Thankyou, New York Slimes. :-x
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-07-2012 17:40
Except Canada's Charter has an 'escape' clause. Called the "Not withstanding Clause" it allows ANY provincial or federal government to override certain portions of the Charter. "may declare a law or part of a law to apply temporarily ("notwithstanding") countermanding sections of the Charter, thereby nullifying any judicial review by overriding the Charter protections for a limited period of time. This is done by including a section in the law clearly specifying which rights have been overridden. A simple majority vote in any of Canada's eleven jurisdictions may suspend the core rights of the Charter" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_Thirty-three_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms

As for limeted period of time... "Such a declaration lapses after five years or a lesser time specified in the clause, although the legislature may re-enact the clause indefinitely"

Indefinitely.
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Gator
# Gator 02-07-2012 19:53
Your tax dollars at work: an NCAR cartoon on steroid use in baseball and compared to climate change
Posted on February 7, 2012 by Anthony Watts

From the video description:

AtmosNews takes a lighthearted look at an unexpected analogy, explaining why some people call carbon dioxide (and the other greenhouse gases) the steroids of the climate system. Statistics and extreme behavior are involved, whether we’re talking about baseball or Earth’s atmosphere. NCAR scientist Gerald “Jerry” Meehl explains why.


wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/07/your-tax-dollars-at-work-an-ncar-cartoon-on-steroid-use-in-baseball-and-climate-change/#comment-886938

You really must see this cartoon. I think it's the crappiest piece of propaganda to which I have ever been subjected. :-x
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amirlach
# amirlach 02-07-2012 21:24
A new Frackin Process uses no water or biocides. gasfrac.com/
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anne
# anne 02-08-2012 01:44
www.google.co.uk/.../ No energy whatsoever for us peasants is what they want.
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anne
# anne 02-08-2012 01:56
www.infowars.com/bill-gates-pours-millions-into-geoengineering/ Don't bother wondering what they are really up to, making fuel prices unaffordable and blocking the sun?? Death anyone?
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Robert
# Robert 02-08-2012 04:13
To paraphrase Bill Cosby, "Bill Gates is an old person who is trying to get into heaven now."

Has Bill Gates become senile? Good question, would be interesting to see a professional opinion on that.

Is he perhaps feeling guilty about having all that money? I suspect that is true.

Personally I think Bill Gates feels some need to atone for his "sins" unfortunately as the man had no ethics to start with he can't manage that atonement without committing more sin...
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anne
# anne 02-08-2012 02:13
www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2009/06_iran_strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf Interesting document, war with Iran just when we are all skint, wonder why anyone?
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Thomas
# Thomas 02-08-2012 03:02
Just wondering how many of you good people are hearing about the records we are breaking here in Australia. the last three years have been some of the best on record for crops Agriculture stock numbers are shooting up we are receiving unbelievable amounts of rain my district along with many others are about to receive the biggest floods on record and Professor Tim Flannery who said it would never rain again has egg on his face.

Cheers
Tom
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Robert
# Robert 02-08-2012 04:24
Was talking with someone online the other night who lives there and was asking them about the rain. They told me something about the Queensland (I think that was it) dam being full yet they were refusing to release the water which was causing problems for those downstream who need that water for their irrigation and other purposes.

I think there was something about it over on JoNova's too but all I saw were a couple comments in a "unrelated" thread that mentioned the dam.

Everything seems to indicate to me that:

A) As far as the "environment" goes none of the alarmist claims are coming true there either but rather things have been very beneficial for you.

and B) That your government still has it's head up it's arse and reality be damned.
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anne
# anne 02-08-2012 13:02
Hi Thomas, I understand that they blew the budget on a huge desalination plant, is that correct? So sad about the flooding it really is awful, and the Australian Gov should hang their heads in absolute shame.
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anne
# anne 02-08-2012 14:55
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100135804/cameron-to-appoint-new-personal-hygiene-czar/ Hope everyone realises what the UK gov's priorities are, we have no other problems 'honest'.
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Gator
# Gator 02-09-2012 14:38
LA County OKs $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbee On Beaches

"LOS ANGELES (CBS) — When you head down to the beach for a little fun this summer, county officials want you to leave the pigskin at home.

The Board of Supervisors this week agreed to raise fines to up to $1,000 for anyone who throws a football or a Frisbee on any beach in Los Angeles County...

Your kids could also end up costing you big bucks: the ordinance also prohibits digging any hole deeper than 18 inches into the sand except where permission is granted for film and TV production services only."

losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/la-county-oks-1000-fine-for-throwing-football-frisbee-on-beaches/

I'm sure glad to hear Los Angeles has rectified all of their serious issues.
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Red Jeff
# Red Jeff 02-09-2012 14:46
What do you expect from a society that needs 'saving' from 'saving'? "A leading US health official has warned that a campaign started by a children's hospital to fight childhood obesity poses health risks.

Alan Guttmacher, a child health expert at the National Institutes of Health, says Atlanta-based Strong4Life "carries a great risk of increasing stigma". The campaign has been criticised for using stark images of overweight children to warn of obesity risks." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16958865

"In a letter to fat activist Shannon Russell, Dr Guttmacher, director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, said childhood stigma "can reinforce unhealthy behaviours". Stigma also "poses risks to the psychological health" of obese adolescents, Dr Guttmacher wrote."

Need more be said?
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Gator
# Gator 02-09-2012 15:11
Gosh! I cannot believe that a Shriver would be behind an organization that could potentially promote eating disorders...



Just ask Skeletor here, she'll tell ya! :lol:
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Robert
# Robert 02-09-2012 16:39
Well I was eating...

Think I may need a night light now too. :D
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Speros
# Speros 02-09-2012 21:42
Part 1 of 2

Odessa temperature reaches low of -20c and hell actually freezes over.

Article below from Australian NineMSN news website.

news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8417131/frozen-sea-makes-freaky-sounds

"Each summer thousands of tourists and locals flock to the Ukraine's Arcadia beach, one of the most popular in eastern Europe, and listen to the waves lap peacefully against the shore.

But this winter as the temperatures drop below -20 degrees Celsius the sea there is making a very different sound.

The Black Sea near the city of Odessa has frozen over for the first time since 1977 and the ice and rocks are rubbing against each other to create an alien soundscape of bizarre squeaks, chirps and whines.
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amirlach
# amirlach 02-09-2012 22:48
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An alien soundscape of bizarre squeaks, chirps and whines.
Funny, Climate Alarmists also make bizzare squeaks, chirps and whines. They should feel right at home. :D
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Speros
# Speros 02-09-2012 21:43
Part 2 of 2

"Ukraine has been hardest hit by Europe's recent cold snap, with 136 people in the former Soviet republic reported dead from the freezing condition...see photos

The Ukrainian government said around 90 percent of the deaths were alcohol-related.

"Alcohol creates the illusion of being warm, so it's not surprising that people are drinking and not surprising that they pass out," Red Cross spokesman Joe Lowry said.

"Obviously, a full belly or hot drinks is far, far better for you than vodka."

Another 3000 people have been hospitalised because of the cold."
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anne
# anne 02-10-2012 00:49
email2.btconnect.bt.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=cfact.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=87b74a936c723115dfa298cf3%26id=3abd389a84%26e=713a493900 Hi Red Jeff, Climate Depot has a great deal of info on 'sustainable development' and how to grab the mids of kids younger and younger, also an opinion on childhood obesity that is very interesting. I call it 'baby brainwashing'.
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