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Peter Gleick obtained documents falsely from the Heartland Institute (HI) and used them to vilify that organization. HI was a major target for promoters of human caused climate change because they dared to hold international conferences presenting the other side of the climate debate. This was actively surpressed by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Climatic Research Unit (CRU) members, as leaked emails showed. (Disclosure; I was privileged to be a keynote speaker at the first conference in New York and commented in my opening remarks, I’ve waited thirty years for this day.)

Gleick’s activities apparently manifest a groupthink mentality of several faculty at Stanford University. The late faculty member and grandfather of IPCC, Stephen Schneider, delineated it in Discover magazine in 1989.

On the one hand we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but, which means that we must include all the doubts, caveats, ifs and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists, but human beings as well. And like most people, wed like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climate change. To do that we have to get some broad-based support, to capture the publics imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This double ethical bind which we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both.”

The penultimate sentence is wrong frightening and not justified by the last sentence as Schneider apparently thought. Scientific ethicist Gleick agreed with Schneider as he wrote, “He taught me and many others he mentored to understand and honor the science, but he also taught us the importance of speaking up in defense of the integrity of science and the public interest. “

Gleick is fully compromised, but will likely continue because of his claims about water. It’s the environmental vehicle replacing climate for achieving government control, nationally and internationally.

Stanford University was the academic centre for issues that framed the Club of Rome (COR). Pivotal publications included Paul Ehrlich’s book The Population Bomb, but predictions were set out primarily in Limits to Growth using simplistic computer models. They extended the Malthusian idea that population would outgrow food supply and applied it to all resources with amplification by capitalism and fossil fuel driven economies. Almost all the predictions were disastrously wrong.

Others involved were PhD Stanford graduate John Holdren, co-author with Ehrlich, and now Obama’s Science Czar. Gleick’s water research is referenced throughout their works.

Water was central to the COR concerns, probably with Gleick’s influence. Their agenda was incorporated into United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP) specifically as Agenda 21. At the 1977 United Nations ‘Water Conference’ they set up the International Drinking Water Decade as 1981 – 1990. People involved with this project were associated with the COR and the plans for One World government. Central was socialist Barbara Ward, former Cabinet Minister in the UK government. In an article titled “Only One World: An Awakening” Stephen Berry quotes Ms. Ward, “We may be on the way to a new moral reality.” This view pervades all the policies emanating from the UN, the COR and the environmental movement of the last 40 years.

The objective is one world government with almost total control. Environment became a vehicle for social control of individual countries and suppression of capitalism and technology. Strong used the UNEP with the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to create the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Neil Hrab wrote: “What’s truly alarming about Maurice Strong is his actual record. Strong’s persistent calls for an international mobilization to combat environmental calamities, even when they are exaggerated (population growth) or scientifically unproven (global warming), have set the world’s environmental agenda.” Now that warming has failed as the political vehicle water is rapidly advancing as a replacement.

Mark Dubrulle: 40-year member of the COR was asked in 2008, “Is water an issue within this consultation process and the general program of the Club of Rome?” He replied, “Resources include water by definition. We have within the Club very distinguished members who already years ago draw our attention on the problem of water. We intend to play an active role in the debate on water resources, water supply and water consumption, with a very critical attitude towards the current policies. Ian Johnson, the new Secretary General of the international Club of Rome, clearly stated that water is one of the big challenges, perhaps even more important than oil.” The 74 Club book explains they believe “democracy has failed and new forms of governance are required”. They determined that “a common enemy must be found, one either real or invented, to unite humanity." They explain, “in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.” 

Schneider’s dilemma is non-existent; the truth is the only option. Gleick’s unethical actions indicate he believes it’s an option and the end justifies the means. We are on notice, so diligence about all water resources claims is required.

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# Gator 2012-02-25 13:35
Environmental ‘disaster' looms for Florida, Browner warns

GAINESVILLE — Florida as we know it — beaches, fresh drinking water, the Everglades — will disappear unless action is taken to curb climate change, national environmental leader Carol Browner said at a dinner Friday night.

"Doing nothing simply spells disaster," said Browner, a University of Florida law graduate, Miami native and former administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. "We have to get started. Further delay will only make it more difficult and more expensive."

Browner spoke at a dinner Friday night as part of the UF Levin College of Law's annual environmental conference, which this year was titled "Fishable? Swimmable? 40 Years of Water Law in Florida and the United States."

Browner is the former secretary of Florida Department of Environmental Protection and most recently was director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy. She also served as President Bill Clinton's EPA administrator.


www.ocala.com/article/20120224/ARTICLES/120229802/1402/NEWS?Title=Environmental-8216-disaster-looms-for-Florida-Browner-warns

As the worm turns...
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# Guenier 2012-02-26 07:13
Perhaps this scandal should be called ... (drumroll) ... "Watergate".
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# amirlach 2012-02-26 08:50
Good one Robin. Long time no see, you still posting on Jeremy's site?.
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# Gator 2012-02-26 09:23
Hey Robin! Good to see you again my friend. I see you too are enjoying the Gleickensqueal.

Forging ahead in the assumed name of political science.
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# Guenier 2012-02-27 03:26
Still posting from time to time. But not on Jeremy's site recently. I attended Lindzen's (excellent) talk at Westminster & had tea with the great (but quiet and modest) man afterwards. One result: I've been disputing - on Dellers' blog and elsewhere - the parallel being drawn between cAGW and Y2K. Here's why:

qii2.info/y2k.pdf
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# Gator 2012-02-27 03:49
Hey Robin! I have many friends at Union Pacific Technology who worked on that issue. As I am sure you are quite aware, from a railroad perspective this could have been a nightmare. I learned alot from them during the fix period, mostly I learned that the situation was hyped beyond belief. Not to say that there was not alot of work that absolutely had to be done by a firm deadline, because there was tons. And not that it was not very important to keep the wheels on the train, so to speak, because of course it was. But the stories of coffe pots and toasters rebelling were over the top.
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# Guenier 2012-02-28 02:50
Not only toasters - the "planes will fall from the sky" scares were just as ridiculous. But no more ridiculous than saying the whole thing was - like cAGW - a false scare. It wasn't and failure to act could have beeb disastrous.
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# Guenier 2012-02-28 02:52
"beeb" = been. But there again the Beeb (AKA the BBC) often is disastrous.
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# Charles Higley 2012-02-26 21:53
Never fear. The EPA claims that any land that gets wet and from which water runs is wetlands. So, any time there is a heavy downpour, your land is wetlands and they can claim it. One couple wanting to build on their land had to dig down 8 feet to find water. The EPA prevented building as, to them, it's wetland. They wanted $37,000/day penalties against the owners. WHen the owners won their case in court, the EPA effectively said "Great, but it's still wetlands and you cannot build. We are the EPA."
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# Robert 2012-02-26 22:20
I read sometime, somewhere about an individual who wanted to clean up his property, apparently a lot of old tires and things.

However, because water had collected in the old tires, along came the EPA saying "No you can't remove those tires."

Something to do with the water in them being a home to some insect or other.

Was it true? I don't know, I can't recall where it was I ran across that, may even have been here some years back.

But it wouldn't surprise me. Those people are out of control.
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# John Parsons 2012-02-27 02:01
You "read somewhere." "Was it true?" You "don't know" but you'll put it out there anyway. Wow. You've certainly removed any doubt one might have had about your sources. JP
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